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Disclaimer: I know wikipedia is NOT a reliable source and will not be using it to prove major points.
Wikipedia will be used to Define the following: Rothschild Origins, Definition of Federal Reserve Bank, Central Bank and how Fraction banking works
^^These are all easy to confirm on other reliable sites and I am just using the wikipedia site because it happens to be accurate for these subjects and its the first search result

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The first member of the family who was known to use the name "Rothschild" was Izaak Elchanan Rothschild, born in 1577. The name means "Red Shield" in Old German. The family's ascent to international prominence began in 1744, with the birth of Mayer Amschel Rothschild in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. He was the son of Amschel Moses Rothschild, (born circa 1710),[8] a money changer who had traded with the Prince of Hesse. Born in the ghetto (called "Judengasse" or Jewish-alley) of Frankfurt, Mayer developed a finance house and spread his empire by installing each of his five sons in the five main European financial centres to conduct business. LINK
^^Right from the beginning they spread out to control their wealth and power.

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Another essential part of Mayer Rothschild's strategy for future success was to keep control of their banks in family hands, allowing them to maintain full secrecy about the size of their fortunes LINK
^^And they are masters at this until present day. States this on their very own financial website: LINK
You will also note that they have established themselves in Switzerland. A country which is well known to have banks which do not disclose account holders assets. LINK


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Mayer Rothschild successfully kept the fortune in the family with carefully arranged marriages, often between first or second cousins (similar to royal intermarriage). By the late 19th century, however, almost all Rothschilds had started to marry outside the family, usually into the aristocracy or other financial dynasties
^^Hard to find reliable sources on some things but they are intermarried with the rockefellers and have strong business connections with JP Morgan


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We are like the mechanism of a clock: each part is essentialLINK
^^The Rothschilds bragging about their past seeming very proud of it using it to their own advantage.Does this sound like a family whos wealth has been divided between numerous heirs? Yes? Well lets remember these guys reinvented the modern day banking system and are the creators of the rules (are there loopholes for the elite? My guess is YES). Perhaps I can convince you with the next quote....
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Estate planning
A trust enables the settlor to benefit family members (including future generations) without ownership and control being given to the beneficiaries.
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^^Their funds are by NO MEANS watered down!!! They are the masters at keeping the wealth in the family WITHOUT dividing up between heirs


BANKS And What They Truly Represent
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The President, Directors and Company, of the Bank of the United States, commonly known as the First Bank of the United States, was a central bank, chartered for a term of twenty years, by the United States Congress on February 25, 1791 LINK
Links of reference are in the quote...This doesn't seem like much right? Well lets take a look at the bill of 1791 and what "Central Bank" truly means!

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A central bank, reserve bank, or monetary authority is a public institution that manages a state's currency, money supply, and interest rates. Central banks also usually oversee the commercial banking system of their respective countries. In contrast to a commercial bank, a central bank possesses a monopoly on increasing the amount of money in the nation, and usually also prints the national currency, which usually serves as the nation's legal tender.[1][2] Examples include the European Central Bank (ECB) and the Federal Reserve of the United States.[3]
The primary function of a central bank is to manage the nation's money supply (monetary policy), through active duties such as managing interest rates, setting the reserve requirement, and acting as a lender of last resort to the banking sector during times of bank insolvency or financial crisis. Central banks usually also have supervisory powers, intended to prevent bank runs and to reduce the risk that commercial banks and other financial institutions engage in reckless or fraudulent behavior. Central banks in most developed nations are institutionally designed to be independent from political interference.
The chief executive of a central bank is normally known as the Governor, President or Chairman. LINK
^^PUBLIC INSTITUTION!!! Privately owned and what do they control? EVERYTHING to do with finance!!! Who owns this? It is not stated anywhere on a reliable site hahaha. Or is it?...
I'll address that later. If anyone wants to be even more disgusted check out the Bill of 1791 in this LINK

And for futher research lets look at the term Fractional Banking...Every bank in the world falls under this category. Click on this LINK

But don't trust Wikipedia...lets look at the government site and lets see their answer as to who controls the federal reserve! Click on this LINK
In the site it says its regulated by congress! Not a god-damn chance! In its history it has only ever been audited ONCE!!! And a list of recommendations was not ordered they were SUGGESTED. And when you read the audit...you'll be disgusted!!!
So lets read it!!
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The first top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve uncovered eye-popping new details about how the U.S. provided a whopping $16 trillion in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks and businesses during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. An amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders to the Wall Street reform law passed one year ago this week directed the Government Accountability Office to conduct the study. "As a result of this audit, we now know that the Federal Reserve provided more than $16 trillion in total financial assistance to some of the largest financial institutions and corporations in the United States and throughout the world," said Sanders. "This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you're-on-your-own individualism for everyone else."
Among the investigation's key findings is that the Fed unilaterally provided trillions of dollars in financial assistance to foreign banks and corporations from South Korea to Scotland, according to the GAO report. "No agency of the United States government should be allowed to bailout a foreign bank or corporation without the direct approval of Congress and the president," Sanders said.VERY IMPORTANT LINK
^^When you click on that link you will get the option to click on the actual Audit report and read it for yourself!!! CRAZY

^^16 Trillion dollars to not only American corporations but FOREIGN corporations as well!!! Holy Crap!!! I especially love how they pointed out Socialism for the rich and individualism for the poor. That is EXACTLY how it is!! They work together and use our hard earned tax dollars to bail themselves out! Leaving us with the repo men at our door taking our things and our houses. Check out what Einstein had to say about socialism. Click on this LINK.
Here is a quote from wikipedia...again you can confirm this by clicking on the last link. Einstein wrote an entire paper on socialism
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Einstein's political view was in favor of socialism and critical of capitalism, which he detailed in essays like "Why Socialism?";[112][113] his political views emerged publicly in the middle of the 20th century due to his fame and reputation for genius. Einstein offered to and was called on to give judgments and opinions on matters often unrelated to theoretical physics or mathematics.[114]
^^This is just to point out that socialism works (the rich are socialists). But thats what our parents taught us right? Work together? Anyone else still remember that?


Andrew Jackson one of the smartest presidents of the united states and I quote
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The greatest party battle centered around the Second Bank of the United States, a private corporation but virtually a Government-sponsored monopoly. When Jackson appeared hostile toward it, the Bank threw its power against him.

Clay and Webster, who had acted as attorneys for the Bank, led the fight for its recharter in Congress. "The bank," Jackson told Martin Van Buren, "is trying to kill me, but I will kill it!" Jackson, in vetoing the recharter bill, charged the Bank with undue economic privilege. LINK
^^Do more research on this topic...Andrew Jackson was the figurehead but men like Abraham Lincoln are also rumored to have opposed them. This bank is the same as the Federal Reserve and the economic privilege he speaks of is exactly what the federal reserve did during that last recession!!! Bail themselves out!!

Almost every National Bank in countries all across the world works exactly the same as the American Federal Reserve bank. I am only singling out the americans because this country has the best evidence of exploitation by these privately run central banks.
Here is a link to a video explaining how Modern Banking works. LINK
^^The video has nothing to do with the Rothschild family...if you scroll down there are quotes that try to shed light on what the Rothschild family is really like. However a lot of those links are not credible. This is because the Rothschild have invested a lot of time and effort to HIDE their history. I cannot prove those quotes are right but because of how tightly the Rothschild's control their family history YOU cannot prove them wrong either!!! Also why keep history under such firm grip if there is nothing to hide? Only through openness can you convince me of innocence. If you click on this LINK
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The Rothschild Archive is open to bona fide researchers, by appointment only, between 10.00am and 16.15pm, Monday to Friday. UK public holidays are observed.
 
Readers wishing to consult material in the Archive should email the archivist with details of their research proposal.
 
All researchers must provide two written references in support of their application in advance of their first visit.
 
Researchers are required to sign a copy of our standard agreement on their first visit.
 
Archive material dated after 1930 is not generally available to researchers.   Applications to consult some parts of the collection that are available after this date must be made to the archivist.
^^Okay...so lets get this straight...you aren't allowed to just research whatever you want. You have to ask and make a proposal. And for some disturbing reason there is no material dated after 1930 that is available to researchers. Why? The only reason to deny access and monitor this archive so closely is because there is something to hide. Simple logic
 

So we've touched on the secretive nature of the Rothschild dynasty a few times. Why do I believe they are still THE major power today?

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Until about three years ago, the gold fixings took place at the premises of N.M. Rothschild and Sons Ltd. LINK
^^Not just ANYONE sets the price of Gold! Ok ok so I admit they no longer do this. There are two answers for this. 1. They are no longer in power or 2. They are becoming more and more aware that they need to be invisible.

More evidence is needed and I agree!
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Rothschild’s long history of working with governments dates back to the origins of our firm more than 200 years ago.
We are widely regarded as the adviser who best understands the needs of governments and the benefits of a discreet, long-term relationship.
Governments trust the high calibre of our advisory expertise and the impartiality and independence fostered by our pure advisory business model. We have been engaged by many government clients for assistance with a great variety of challenges.
Rothschild was instrumental in the privatisation programmes of the 1980s in the United Kingdom, which were forerunners of a worldwide trend. Likewise, at the height of the recent global financial crisis, a significant number of governments turned to us for our expert and trusted advice on recapitalising and restructuring a range of stricken industries, including the banking sector in Europe and the automotive industry in the United States.
Rothschild also assists governments with financial divestments and complex auction processes. We advised the Government of India on its US$22.7 billion auction of 3G and BWA spectrum and, in Australia, we advised the Queensland Government on its US$17.6 billion Asset Sales Programme. LINK
^^Their banks were NOT bailed out by the recession. When you control the recession you do not need to be bailed out. They advise Governments? Who else does this? They are bankers to the rich!!! So when the privatization programs they speak of have taken over the world and there is no more middle class then their bank will be one of just a few that holds the REAL wealth in the world (All the other banks that needed to be bailed out is where poor people put their money).

^^Another interesting thing to note is that almost every country in the world is in debt! Where is that money? We are talking Trillions and trillions of dollars.
It is my opinion these people have hidden the money in trusts and swiss accounts and have the largest stake in worlds money supply. They have had kings entertain their houses and have stated only a rothschild could afford a house like this. The biggest disaster they faced this century is when Hilter seized their assests in germany...however they were still donating these monolithic houses to charity and museums. Not an action of a family that has lost the majority of their assets. Remember their key to success right from the beginning was spreading out...
Also they had a bank nationalized in france in the 1980's (pretty much a seizure of assets). In 1984 they started a new bank in France with one million dollars and 4 employees.
LINK
^^Thats a pretty quick recovery hey?



There is sooooo much more on this topic but yes a lot of it is not confirmed. I will leave you with a famous quote though. History is written by the victors. So ponder that when your trying to remember the education you were given in your high school, college or university books.

Do your OWN research and figure out for yourself what YOU believe instead of puking out other peoples propoganda...and YES that includes what you just read :D


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In the early 19th century, the five sons of Mayer Amschel Rothschild set out from the family home in Frankfurt to the principal financial centres of Europe – London, Paris, Frankfurt, Naples and Vienna, to establish their great banking houses.
The brothers remained closely connected to their father and to each other and together worked as a partnership, binding themselves by contract to clear, defined objectives and principles. They created the fastest and safest courier network in Europe by which they exchanged market information, and soon positioned themselves as the best informed and most internationally effective banking group in the world. LINK

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By the time Nathan died in 1836, the Rothschilds were the most successful international bankers of the age.
For more than a century from 1818, when Nathan in London arranged a £5 million loan to the Prussian government, raising funds for governments throughout the world by the issuing of bonds formed the core of Rothschild business.
Individual brothers and their descendants added other interests. In France and Austria the Rothschild banks pushed for, built and financed networks of railways. In Vienna, Salomon became interested in engineering and foundries. All became involved with precious metals, and in particular gold.
In 1840, N M Rothschild & Sons became one of the Bank of England's bullion brokers. Hard on the heels of the gold rushes of the 19th century, agencies were set up in California and Australia. For a good part of the century, Rothschild, through the acquisition of key mines in Spain, enjoyed a monopoly in mercury, used in the refining of precious metals. And for over a hundred years, from 1852, the London bank operated the Royal Mint Refinery in London, refining and casting for the Bank of England and other international customers. LINK

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The French took a major interest in the mining of base metals – in particular copper and nickel – and in England the Rothschilds backed a new venture, The Exploration Company, to seek out mineral sources throughout the world. With the provision of funding for the creation of De Beers in 1887, Rothschild also turned to investment in the mining of precious stones, in Africa and India. For a time too, along with the Nobels, they were at the forefront of developing oil fields, in Baku and Batoum in south-west Russia.
Away from business, new family interests grew. In 1895, Edmond de Rothschild, youngest son of Baron James, visited Palestine for the first time. In the years to come he was to support the founding of a number of Jewish colonies. His interest in the development of the country continued until his death in 1934. LINK

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After the First World War, merchant banks yielded their traditional place in raising finance for governments to new international funding institutions.
The Rothschild banks now began a steady transition towards the raising of finance for commercial and industrial concerns. British clients between the wars included the London Underground.
In 1919, in a new page in the long history of Rothschild involvement with gold, N M Rothschild & Sons took on the role of Chair for the new daily fixing of the world gold price, a City tradition which continued at New Court until 2004. LINK

Rothschild history through their own eyes...and yes they had some trials. But how much? Remember they have blocked historians from their archive from everything after the 1930's

^^and I leave you pondering that
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Re: The Rothschild Dynasty - Information and Debate thread
« Reply #1 on: 26 June 2013, 03:37:06 »
The United States is a fabulous example of Crony Capitalism. I am currently reading this book:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Deformation-Corruption-Capitalism/dp/1586489127

The author is David Stockman, Ronald Reagan's budget director.

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Re: The Rothschild Dynasty - Information and Debate thread
« Reply #2 on: 26 June 2013, 04:59:34 »
^^yes but almost every major country has a bank equivalent to the federal Reserve. That is where the real money and power lie. Watch that video that I mentioned in that thread. It's disgusting what they do

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« Reply #3 on: 30 June 2013, 02:33:34 »
If they tried to kill a brutal genocidal mass murderer like Andrew Jackson, maybe they aren't so bad?

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« Reply #4 on: 30 June 2013, 17:49:57 »
Without money, there is no war. The same people control the so-called government banks in almost every country in the world. If they wanted peace they have that power. These people have killed a lot more people then Andrew Jackson ever could just to fill up their pocket books.

Also if you care to research the Rothschild connection to the founding of Israel and take a look at what Israel is doing to Palestine. I believe that's called genocide my friend.

Too much fluoride in our tap water it seems. Nobody can seem to make the connections right in front of their face.

So let me break it down in simple form.


Everyday you wake up and go to work. Why? What do you need to take care of your family? Will love keep them fed? So what is almost everyone on the planet doing everyday?

The world revolves around money. And if that is true then does it not make sense that the people who control the money are the most powerful? Seems like a no-brainer to me. If the government actually held any power then nothing would be privatized most especially the banks. Governments were created to help the people, yet the rich seem to benefit the most. Why?

We all have brains...its time we all started using them
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« Reply #5 on: 10 July 2013, 00:23:34 »
This thread could be the seed for another mod...How about only being able to sell gold and silver to the producers of jewelry and the bank. A level 4 bank (Mint) would then create coins (copper, silver, gold) and sell them to the government. See this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seigniorage. The level 4 mint would sell coins to the government, making a profit in the process. Sales to the government would need to be limited as to not unbalance the game.

To substitute for the loss of coin sales for levels 1,2, and 3, maybe those levels could sell loans (letters of credit) for increasing commissions as the levels progress...like purchasing loans in the game Patrician 3

The Rothschilds would be so proud...

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« Reply #6 on: 10 July 2013, 00:45:13 »
This thread could be the seed for another mod...How about only being able to sell gold and silver to the producers of jewelry and the bank. A level 4 bank (Mint) would then create coins (copper, silver, gold) and sell them to the government. See this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seigniorage. The level 4 mint would sell coins to the government, making a profit in the process. Sales to the government would need to be limited as to not unbalance the game.

To substitute for the loss of coin sales for levels 1,2, and 3, maybe those levels could sell loans (letters of credit) for increasing commissions as the levels progress...like purchasing loans in the game Patrician 3

The Rothschilds would be so proud...

^^Bastard...hahahaha
Fr0st is like 10times more skilled at modding then me (I am assuming he has some formal education). He could do this a lot quicker then me :)

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« Reply #7 on: 22 August 2013, 07:34:42 »
Disclaimer: I know wikipedia is NOT a reliable source and will not be using it to prove major points.
Wikipedia will be used to Define the following: Rothschild Origins, Definition of Federal Reserve Bank, Central Bank and how Fraction banking works
^^These are all easy to confirm on other reliable sites and I am just using the wikipedia site because it happens to be accurate for these subjects and its the first search result

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The first member of the family who was known to use the name "Rothschild" was Izaak Elchanan Rothschild, born in 1577. The name means "Red Shield" in Old German. The family's ascent to international prominence began in 1744, with the birth of Mayer Amschel Rothschild in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. He was the son of Amschel Moses Rothschild, (born circa 1710),[8] a money changer who had traded with the Prince of Hesse. Born in the ghetto (called "Judengasse" or Jewish-alley) of Frankfurt, Mayer developed a finance house and spread his empire by installing each of his five sons in the five main European financial centres to conduct business. LINK
^^Right from the beginning they spread out to control their wealth and power.

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Another essential part of Mayer Rothschild's strategy for future success was to keep control of their banks in family hands, allowing them to maintain full secrecy about the size of their fortunes LINK
^^And they are masters at this until present day. States this on their very own financial website: LINK
You will also note that they have established themselves in Switzerland. A country which is well known to have banks which do not disclose account holders assets. LINK


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Mayer Rothschild successfully kept the fortune in the family with carefully arranged marriages, often between first or second cousins (similar to royal intermarriage). By the late 19th century, however, almost all Rothschilds had started to marry outside the family, usually into the aristocracy or other financial dynasties
^^Hard to find reliable sources on some things but they are intermarried with the rockefellers and have strong business connections with JP Morgan


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We are like the mechanism of a clock: each part is essentialLINK
^^The Rothschilds bragging about their past seeming very proud of it using it to their own advantage.Does this sound like a family whos wealth has been divided between numerous heirs? Yes? Well lets remember these guys reinvented the modern day banking system and are the creators of the rules (are there loopholes for the elite? My guess is YES). Perhaps I can convince you with the next quote....
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Estate planning
A trust enables the settlor to benefit family members (including future generations) without ownership and control being given to the beneficiaries.
LINK
^^Their funds are by NO MEANS watered down!!! They are the masters at keeping the wealth in the family WITHOUT dividing up between heirs


BANKS And What They Truly Represent
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The President, Directors and Company, of the Bank of the United States, commonly known as the First Bank of the United States, was a central bank, chartered for a term of twenty years, by the United States Congress on February 25, 1791 LINK
Links of reference are in the quote...This doesn't seem like much right? Well lets take a look at the bill of 1791 and what "Central Bank" truly means!

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A central bank, reserve bank, or monetary authority is a public institution that manages a state's currency, money supply, and interest rates. Central banks also usually oversee the commercial banking system of their respective countries. In contrast to a commercial bank, a central bank possesses a monopoly on increasing the amount of money in the nation, and usually also prints the national currency, which usually serves as the nation's legal tender.[1][2] Examples include the European Central Bank (ECB) and the Federal Reserve of the United States.[3]
The primary function of a central bank is to manage the nation's money supply (monetary policy), through active duties such as managing interest rates, setting the reserve requirement, and acting as a lender of last resort to the banking sector during times of bank insolvency or financial crisis. Central banks usually also have supervisory powers, intended to prevent bank runs and to reduce the risk that commercial banks and other financial institutions engage in reckless or fraudulent behavior. Central banks in most developed nations are institutionally designed to be independent from political interference.
The chief executive of a central bank is normally known as the Governor, President or Chairman. LINK
^^PUBLIC INSTITUTION!!! Privately owned and what do they control? EVERYTHING to do with finance!!! Who owns this? It is not stated anywhere on a reliable site hahaha. Or is it?...
I'll address that later. If anyone wants to be even more disgusted check out the Bill of 1791 in this LINK

And for futher research lets look at the term Fractional Banking...Every bank in the world falls under this category. Click on this LINK

But don't trust Wikipedia...lets look at the government site and lets see their answer as to who controls the federal reserve! Click on this LINK
In the site it says its regulated by congress! Not a god-damn chance! In its history it has only ever been audited ONCE!!! And a list of recommendations was not ordered they were SUGGESTED. And when you read the audit...you'll be disgusted!!!
So lets read it!!
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The first top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve uncovered eye-popping new details about how the U.S. provided a whopping $16 trillion in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks and businesses during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. An amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders to the Wall Street reform law passed one year ago this week directed the Government Accountability Office to conduct the study. "As a result of this audit, we now know that the Federal Reserve provided more than $16 trillion in total financial assistance to some of the largest financial institutions and corporations in the United States and throughout the world," said Sanders. "This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you're-on-your-own individualism for everyone else."
Among the investigation's key findings is that the Fed unilaterally provided trillions of dollars in financial assistance to foreign banks and corporations from South Korea to Scotland, according to the GAO report. "No agency of the United States government should be allowed to bailout a foreign bank or corporation without the direct approval of Congress and the president," Sanders said.VERY IMPORTANT LINK
^^When you click on that link you will get the option to click on the actual Audit report and read it for yourself!!! CRAZY

^^16 Trillion dollars to not only American corporations but FOREIGN corporations as well!!! Holy Crap!!! I especially love how they pointed out Socialism for the rich and individualism for the poor. That is EXACTLY how it is!! They work together and use our hard earned tax dollars to bail themselves out! Leaving us with the repo men at our door taking our things and our houses. Check out what Einstein had to say about socialism. Click on this LINK.
Here is a quote from wikipedia...again you can confirm this by clicking on the last link. Einstein wrote an entire paper on socialism
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Einstein's political view was in favor of socialism and critical of capitalism, which he detailed in essays like "Why Socialism?";[112][113] his political views emerged publicly in the middle of the 20th century due to his fame and reputation for genius. Einstein offered to and was called on to give judgments and opinions on matters often unrelated to theoretical physics or mathematics.[114]
^^This is just to point out that socialism works (the rich are socialists). But thats what our parents taught us right? Work together? Anyone else still remember that?


Andrew Jackson one of the smartest presidents of the united states and I quote
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The greatest party battle centered around the Second Bank of the United States, a private corporation but virtually a Government-sponsored monopoly. When Jackson appeared hostile toward it, the Bank threw its power against him.

Clay and Webster, who had acted as attorneys for the Bank, led the fight for its recharter in Congress. "The bank," Jackson told Martin Van Buren, "is trying to kill me, but I will kill it!" Jackson, in vetoing the recharter bill, charged the Bank with undue economic privilege. LINK
^^Do more research on this topic...Andrew Jackson was the figurehead but men like Abraham Lincoln are also rumored to have opposed them. This bank is the same as the Federal Reserve and the economic privilege he speaks of is exactly what the federal reserve did during that last recession!!! Bail themselves out!!

Almost every National Bank in countries all across the world works exactly the same as the American Federal Reserve bank. I am only singling out the americans because this country has the best evidence of exploitation by these privately run central banks.
Here is a link to a video explaining how Modern Banking works. LINK
^^The video has nothing to do with the Rothschild family...if you scroll down there are quotes that try to shed led lighting on what the Rothschild family is really like. However a lot of those links are not credible. This is because the Rothschild have invested a lot of time and effort to HIDE their history. I cannot prove those quotes are right but because of how tightly the Rothschild's control their family history YOU cannot prove them wrong either!!! Also why keep history under such firm grip if there is nothing to hide? Only through openness can you convince me of innocence. If you click on this LINK
And I quote:
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The Rothschild Archive is open to bona fide researchers, by appointment only, between 10.00am and 16.15pm, Monday to Friday. UK public holidays are observed.
 
Readers wishing to consult material in the Archive should email the archivist with details of their research proposal.
 
All researchers must provide two written references in support of their application in advance of their first visit.
 
Researchers are required to sign a copy of our standard agreement on their first visit.
 
Archive material dated after 1930 is not generally available to researchers.   Applications to consult some parts of the collection that are available after this date must be made to the archivist.
^^Okay...so lets get this straight...you aren't allowed to just research whatever you want. You have to ask and make a proposal. And for some disturbing reason there is no material dated after 1930 that is available to researchers. Why? The only reason to deny access and monitor this archive so closely is because there is something to hide. Simple logic
 

So we've touched on the secretive nature of the Rothschild dynasty a few times. Why do I believe they are still THE major power today?

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Until about three years ago, the gold fixings took place at the premises of N.M. Rothschild and Sons Ltd. LINK
^^Not just ANYONE sets the price of Gold! Ok ok so I admit they no longer do this. There are two answers for this. 1. They are no longer in power or 2. They are becoming more and more aware that they need to be invisible.

More evidence is needed and I agree!
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Rothschild’s long history of working with governments dates back to the origins of our firm more than 200 years ago.
We are widely regarded as the adviser who best understands the needs of governments and the benefits of a discreet, long-term relationship.
Governments trust the high calibre of our advisory expertise and the impartiality and independence fostered by our pure advisory business model. We have been engaged by many government clients for assistance with a great variety of challenges.
Rothschild was instrumental in the privatisation programmes of the 1980s in the United Kingdom, which were forerunners of a worldwide trend. Likewise, at the height of the recent global financial crisis, a significant number of governments turned to us for our expert and trusted advice on recapitalising and restructuring a range of stricken industries, including the banking sector in Europe and the automotive industry in the United States.
Rothschild also assists governments with financial divestments and complex auction processes. We advised the Government of India on its US$22.7 billion auction of 3G and BWA spectrum and, in Australia, we advised the Queensland Government on its US$17.6 billion Asset Sales Programme. LINK
^^Their banks were NOT bailed out by the recession. When you control the recession you do not need to be bailed out. They advise Governments? Who else does this? They are bankers to the rich!!! So when the privatization programs they speak of have taken over the world and there is no more middle class then their bank will be one of just a few that holds the REAL wealth in the world (All the other banks that needed to be bailed out is where poor people put their money).

^^Another interesting thing to note is that almost every country in the world is in debt! Where is that money? We are talking Trillions and trillions of dollars.
It is my opinion these people have hidden the money in trusts and swiss accounts and have the largest stake in worlds money supply. They have had kings entertain their houses and have stated only a rothschild could afford a house like this. The biggest disaster they faced this century is when Hilter seized their assests in germany...however they were still donating these monolithic houses to charity and museums. Not an action of a family that has lost the majority of their assets. Remember their key to success right from the beginning was spreading out...
Also they had a bank nationalized in france in the 1980's (pretty much a seizure of assets). In 1984 they started a new bank in France with one million dollars and 4 employees.
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^^Thats a pretty quick recovery hey?



There is sooooo much more on this topic but yes a lot of it is not confirmed. I will leave you with a famous quote though. History is written by the victors. So ponder that when your trying to remember the education you were given in your high school, college or university books.

Do your OWN research and figure out for yourself what YOU believe instead of puking out other peoples propoganda...and YES that includes what you just read :D
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In the early 19th century, the five sons of Mayer Amschel Rothschild set out from the family home in Frankfurt to the principal financial centres of Europe – London, Paris, Frankfurt, Naples and Vienna, to establish their great banking houses.
The brothers remained closely connected to their father and to each other and together worked as a partnership, binding themselves by contract to clear, defined objectives and principles. They created the fastest and safest courier network in Europe by which they exchanged market information, and soon positioned themselves as the best informed and most internationally effective banking group in the world. LINK

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By the time Nathan died in 1836, the Rothschilds were the most successful international bankers of the age.
For more than a century from 1818, when Nathan in London arranged a £5 million loan to the Prussian government, raising funds for governments throughout the world by the issuing of bonds formed the core of Rothschild business.
Individual brothers and their descendants added other interests. In France and Austria the Rothschild banks pushed for, built and financed networks of railways. In Vienna, Salomon became interested in engineering and foundries. All became involved with precious metals, and in particular gold.
In 1840, N M Rothschild & Sons became one of the Bank of England's bullion brokers. Hard on the heels of the gold rushes of the 19th century, agencies were set up in California and Australia. For a good part of the century, Rothschild, through the acquisition of key mines in Spain, enjoyed a monopoly in mercury, used in the refining of precious metals. And for over a hundred years, from 1852, the London bank operated the Royal Mint Refinery in London, refining and casting for the Bank of England and other international customers. LINK

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The French took a major interest in the mining of base metals – in particular copper and nickel – and in England the Rothschilds backed a new venture, The Exploration Company, to seek out mineral sources throughout the world. With the provision of funding for the creation of De Beers in 1887, Rothschild also turned to investment in the mining of precious stones, in Africa and India. For a time too, along with the Nobels, they were at the forefront of developing oil fields, in Baku and Batoum in south-west Russia.
Away from business, new family interests grew. In 1895, Edmond de Rothschild, youngest son of Baron James, visited Palestine for the first time. In the years to come he was to support the founding of a number of Jewish colonies. His interest in the development of the country continued until his death in 1934. LINK

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After the First World War, merchant banks yielded their traditional place in raising finance for governments to new international funding institutions.
The Rothschild banks now began a steady transition towards the raising of finance for commercial and industrial concerns. British clients between the wars included the London Underground.
In 1919, in a new page in the long history of Rothschild involvement with gold, N M Rothschild & Sons took on the role of Chair for the new daily fixing of the world gold price, a City tradition which continued at New Court until 2004. LINK

Rothschild history through their own eyes...and yes they had some trials. But how much? Remember they have blocked historians from their archive from everything after the 1930's

^^and I leave you pondering that

Very critical thread I must say.. You have shared many vital points and I was searching for similar information.. Thanks again
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Re: The Rothschild Dynasty - Information and Debate thread
« Reply #8 on: 22 August 2013, 08:32:10 »
^^nobody realizes how crucial. Corporations exploit the crap out of third world countries and dont give two craps about the people. All that matters to them is the almighty dollar...these corporations are based all over the world and more then likely are in their countries so I must ask, "when the money runs out, when the middle class has been eliminated, how do you think you will be treated?".

Everyone keeps telling themselves "we could live in africa, it can always be worse". Well pretty soon all our countries will be in poverty when privatization has eliminated the middle class, There will be only rich or poor and if you land on the wrong side....well it will be as bad or worse then living in africa...